Prototype and Model Freight Loads in Greece

[TEE1055]

Nice project Andy!

Theses "curious containers" above are called "pa" (porteur aménagé) or Grossbehälter/Mittelcontainer. Invented by the Netherlands in the 1940-Years, that system was based on common standards. To transport it, it was needed to modify flatcars with rails and holding spindles.
The exactly same container in the SEK-pictures above was also used in Switzerland and Netherland. In 1:87, tese are available by Artitec: http://www.artitecshop.com/de/satz-3-geschlossene-containers-ns.html
Lather, the greek-built ones are different in shape. I have explored some of it with BarpaP in Rentis. Last year, i spent a day of research in the SBB-Archives. From theses "NL"-Type, there is unfortunatly no information. So i have begun with designing the next generation of pa-flatcars from 1962, similar to DB BTmms 58 or the OSE-Flatcar.

[BalkanExpress]

Andy, great job that loaded wagon!

Some questions about that:

Could you post us the wagon reference? Is there any model with that old OBB-not the "S" one- logos?

How much is every load you put on the wagon, in orden to value the conversión?

Regards

BalkanExpress

[Olympus]

Thank you TEE1055 and BalkanExpress

Andy, great job that loaded wagon!

Some questions about that:

Could you post us the wagon reference? Is there any model with that old OBB-not the "S" one- logos?

BalkanExpress; Sorry but i have found only this ÖBB flatcar photo from Greece.

How much is every load you put on the wagon, in orden to value the conversión?

Regards

BalkanExpress

mean you the price for the loads?
i have bought it in Germany
http://www.ebay.at/itm/DUHA-11277-F-Lad ... SwEzxYdkMD
one piece 8,95Eu.


best regards Andy

[BarbaPanagos]

great job Andy, I especially like the securing straps! are they some photo-etched parts?

Johannes, what are you designing? the Φ1 wagon? I can't get it from the photo you ave posted...

BP

[TEE1055]

BarpaP, i have it expressed not exactly. In the picture is the SBB Lbs from 1962, that looks a bit familiar to the Φ1 wagon. For the Φ1 wagon, i have not enough informations how i should design it. One possibility is to modify a Brawa BTmms 58.

I think we should explore this year again the Rentis-Area for take some measurements

[BarbaPanagos]

... I think we should explore this year again the Rentis-Area for take some measurements

We should indeed arrange a gathering with the participation of all our friends this year.
Maybe some important event would be a good opportunity, a good reason... something like a Wedding for example

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[christo]

Wedding? I am in. I have two this year but I would be happy for one more.

christo.

[BalkanExpress]

It's sound great as any celebration

Congratulations, Panagoitis!

regards

BalkanExpress

[christo]

Panagiotis ? Maybe the bells are for someone else!

christo.

[BarbaPanagos]

thanks god my wife hasn't thrown me and my models out of the house yet...
but there is one of us ready to join the club
and we'll be there to "support" him


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