OBB carriages in Greece

[Sky]

The same OBB couchette car type, but in blue livery (behind the JŽ car), at Thessaloniki station, Sep 1990. (Photo Phil Wormald)

From my H0 collection, LS Models 47046 OBB Bcmz:

[Olympus]

Hello to all


Christo, the ÖBB 2 class car from Phil´s photos was a small car series with not many pieces
and is as 1:87 model not profitable.


photos from facebook group "Bahnspezial Personenwagen International"
the car from Phil´s photo

The Railtop model typ 518122-30 121-2 Bm at Kirchstetten 22.5.1994

and a ÖBB car at Vienna - on the next photo on Hellas Express at Athens

ÖBB car from a facebook video copyright Nestor Lappas

best regards Andy

[Sky]

Hello to all
Christo, the ÖBB 2 class car from Phil´s photos was a small car series with not many pieces
and is as 1:87 model not profitable.

Great photos, Olympus!

Yes, as far as I know the RailTop UIC-X models are based on the series of OBB carriages that had been produced during the period 1962-1964 (43 pieces), in versions equipped with three different types of bogies
(carriages numeration: B4üh 31100-142 -> Bm 51 81 22-50 (22-80) 1xx), while the carriages in the first and the third photo belong to a little bit older series.

[Olympus]

Hello to all , hello Sky


i have more infos to the cars (photos from "Digitale Eisenbahn Fotoarchiv")

(2 photos Copyright Gerhard Hruska - at Station Wien Westbahnhof)


was built in 1956 as B4üh 31000 to 31019
from 1968 as Bm 5181 22-50 000 - 019
and 1972/1973 to Bm 5181 22-80500 - 519

built 1961 as B4üh 31020 to 31029
from 1968 as Bm 5181 22-50 020 - 029
and 1998 as Bm 5081 22 35 520 - 529

best regards Andy

[Sky]

Hello to all , hello Sky


i have more infos to the cars (photos from "Digitale Eisenbahn Fotoarchiv")

(2 photos Copyright Gerhard Hruska - at Station Wien Westbahnhof)
was built in 1956 as B4üh 31000 to 31019
from 1968 as Bm 5181 22-50 000 - 019
and 1972/1973 to Bm 5181 22-80500 - 519

built 1961 as B4üh 31020 to 31029
from 1968 as Bm 5181 22-50 020 - 029
and 1998 as Bm 5081 22 35 520 - 529

Yes Olympus, these carriages exactly belong to the series built between 1956-1961!

Here we have one of these carriages at Athens, in C1 livery (photo you posted on 'maleželjeznice.net', author unknown):

[Olympus]

i found a H0 3d model !!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.shapeways.com/shops/h0-design

[Sky]

i found a H0 3d model !!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.shapeways.com/shops/h0-design

The model from this source:

... but, unfortunately, as an assembled carriage too expensive...

[Olympus]

Hello to all , hello Sky


i have more infos to the cars (photos from "Digitale Eisenbahn Fotoarchiv")

(2 photos Copyright Gerhard Hruska - at Station Wien Westbahnhof)
was built in 1956 as B4üh 31000 to 31019
from 1968 as Bm 5181 22-50 000 - 019
and 1972/1973 to Bm 5181 22-80500 - 519

built 1961 as B4üh 31020 to 31029
from 1968 as Bm 5181 22-50 020 - 029
and 1998 as Bm 5081 22 35 520 - 529

Yes Olympus, these carriages exactly belong to the series built between 1956-1961!

Here we have one of these carriages at Athens, in C1 livery (photo you posted on 'maleželjeznice.net', author unknown):

The attachment Hellas Express at Athenes.jpg is no longer available

Sky, i think i found the photo on "Flickr" before many years


2 other photos with OBB coaches

first photo is from the old http://www.sfs.gr page
Hellas Express 334 at Idomeni

photo two is Copyright by Phil Wormald
A-468 at Thessaloniki on train 334 from Athina - Budapest

[Sky]

Olympus, do you maybe have or found somewhere, a photo of 'B4üh 31100-142' carriage (RaiTop type), in Greece?

[christo]

Sky, Olympus, one more questiuon please:

Were the OBB schlierenwagen used for international trains to Greece?

christo.