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A251 - A261 Ganz Mavag

PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:43 am
by Olympus
Hello to all


Original (Photo; Ganz Mavag)

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photo of A 261 at Athens / Copyright Amnizia - Nikos Kantiris

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Model; H0 new Fuggerth locos limited for http://www.Naumann-online.de
available in DC or AC

A 258 (limited 100 models)
A 261 (limited 100 models)

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best regards Andy

Re: A251 - A261 Ganz Mavag

PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:35 pm
by BarbaPanagos
Hi Andy,

nice presentation, I have already received the A-261 but I have some difficulty to remove the body. Did you have a look inside, I wonder if there is an improved gear system and especially if there is a flywheel installed?

regards
Panagiotis

Re: A251 - A261 Ganz Mavag

PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:46 pm
by christo
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For the Model Railway Historian. Two power bogies and a hefty weight in the middle. No fuse boxes above the lights but all 11 running numbers produced.

christo.

Re: A251 - A261 Ganz Mavag

PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:47 pm
by Olympus
Hello to all

Panagiotis, Yes, the first try to open the casing is very difficult.
I have for the first loco worked 45 minutes.

The loco have the old gearbox but one flywheel
and with (ESU decoder) runs the loco good.

i think the Cast zinc housing (weight) is to wide,
with the file-tool, i file down the sides,
i think the little windows sticks on the green color,

Open the body;
For the first, on the four door sites from casing to splay,
after give on all sites careful small plastic plates ~ 0,1 - 0,2mm,
then in the middle from casing - the tank, splay the two sites from the tank-push down,
give between plastic plates, press the tank down and try to splay on this position the casing.

I hope i could help.

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best regards Andy

Re: A251 - A261 Ganz Mavag

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:35 am
by BarbaPanagos
thanks Andy, all that info is too helpful, I'll give it a try. The flywheel is good news, it surely improves the movement.
I also notice a couple of capacitors, guess they are for current storage.

Re: A251 - A261 Ganz Mavag

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:06 am
by BarbaPanagos
Some photos of the A 258 at Amfiklia on the 5th April 2013. Unfortunately as all the other locos of the class is withdrawn. I hope OSE is going to restore at least one in working order some day.

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regards
Panagiotis

Re: A251 - A261 Ganz Mavag

PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:58 am
by TimCC6558
Very nice photos - I took many shots of these withdrawn machines when they were at Tithorea some years ago, but it was a very wet day so the pictures aren't so good. I have a couple of the old version of the Fuggerth model and have done some work to improve them - they need a lot! How nice it would be if Roco were to produce an M41 - we can dream!
Regards, Tim.

Re: A251 - A261 Ganz Mavag

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:42 pm
by christo
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Photo Balkanmodels: Spring 1982. A257 almost new at NES Thessaloniki.

christo.

Re: A251 - A261 Ganz Mavag

PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:55 am
by BalkanExpress
Curious photo; in this loco, both multiple unit electric couplers aren't in red/yellow colour.

Nice the train in the background. Thessaloniki is really a paradise for trains lovers

BalkanExpress

Re: A251 - A261 Ganz Mavag

PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:36 am
by christo
BalkanExpress,

You are right. Works photos also show the connectors of A250 Ganz in blue. They must have changed colours later.
You are also right about NES. It was a paradise, not just to see trains but to smell the diesel fumes at peak times. The train behind on Line 7 is pulled by MLW A458 and the first carriage is an ex-CIWL restaurant car. I have photos of these, but there are still so many topics I need to open.

christo.