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Ζ16 9001-9080 USATC 1943

PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:11 am
by christo
BM CG Z16 9024 98.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: Kalamata Railway Park 1998. Wagon 9024 leading another Z16 wagon coupled behind the MacArthur.

christo.

Re: Ζ16 9001-9080 USATC 1943

PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:56 am
by GAZKGK
That's interesting. How you conclude that the numbers are 9001-9080 ? :? ;)

Re: Ζ16 9001-9080 USATC 1943

PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:03 am
by christo
Z16 NG fort.jpg


But I would be happy to be corrected Jason.

christo.

Re: Ζ16 9001-9080 USATC 1943

PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:19 am
by GAZKGK
christo wrote:
The attachment Z16.jpg is no longer available


But I would be happy to be corrected Jason.

christo.



:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


What is the year of that document ??



I knew that this series was 9001-9048, but i had found a table with the tare of all SPAP freight cars, where it said that ''9001-9080''. I asked many people if they knew something and they didn't, so I though that it was probably a mistake.

And now, you, christo, come with a second proof that ''something has happened here''. Nice ! ;) ;) I m now thinking about the probable convertions of them. :mrgreen:






So, the survivors (at least at their original form) are not many .

These five at Kalamata Railway Park ...

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Plus this:

Ζ16 90ΧΧ (ΚΑΛΑΜΑΤΑ).JPG



And 9032 at Markopoulo:

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You can also see them to be indicated as ΣΚΣΤ, ΣΦΣΚ and Σ .

Re: Ζ16 9001-9080 USATC 1943

PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:27 am
by GAZKGK
Built by AMERICAN CAR COMANY for the U.S.A.T.C. in 1943 with a plywood-body and came in Greece by U.N.R.R.A. in 1947. After some years the plywood was replaced at nearly all vans by the common wooden planks.

Here is the famous photo by A. Luft showing ΣΦΣΚ 9031 at Achladokambos.

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Re: Ζ16 9001-9080 USATC 1943

PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:45 am
by christo
Jason,

I edited the drawing above to the full version. Date shown is 1948.

christo.

Re: Ζ16 9001-9080 USATC 1943

PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:53 pm
by GAZKGK
Unknown number at Patra, as a hut for the station of Agios Andreas.

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NOTE the original plywood body and the original plywood door (the doors were replaced with planked ones earlier than the body).

Re: Ζ16 9001-9080 USATC 1943

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:37 pm
by christo
BM CG Z16 9019 98.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: Kalamata Railway Park 1998. Wagon 9019 (I think) .

BM CG Z16 9xxx 98.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: Kalamata Railway Park 1998. Details paradise between the wagons.

christo.