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SPAP 4-axled ''RAVDOTA'': ΒΒΔ 869-879, ΒΒΔ 881-889 (etc.)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:35 am
by apapap
I would like to open this topic because i believe that are the most beautiful coaches of SPAP but unfortunately i don't know their numbers or their story, in order to give the proper name to the topic.

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Korinthos

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Purgos

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Nauplio

Re: SPAP ''RAVDOTA''

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:42 am
by Georgegala
As I can remember,these carriages came to Greece from Italy in 1951-1952.They appeared in both Thessaly and Peloponnese networks until about 1990.They can be seen in Tripolis Dialogi,Kalamata,Enotiki,Dasolofos,Aerino(?),Velestino(?) and in other parts of the metre gauge networks.
Two of them remaining in good condition INSIDE Kalamata Depot;they were used with Δα 7108 in museum trains.

Re: SPAP ''RAVDOTA''

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:56 pm
by Georgegala
Photo from http://trenoargolida.blogspot.gr/2014/0 ... _2419.html

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EDIT: Photo by Alfred Luft.

Re: SPAP ''RAVDOTA''

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:48 pm
by Georgegala
One more photo;I bought it in Nafplio.An unidentified train with these wagons and a Δα or Δι class loco in 1950.

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Re: SPAP ''RAVDOTA''

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:42 pm
by Georgegala
Moreover,one or two are also outside Kalamata Depot in bad condition.The ones inside are a bit graffitized

Re: SPAP ''RAVDOTA''

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:13 pm
by BarbaPanagos
Nice topic. let's wait for the connoisseurs to give us more info and have it properly renamed.

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Re: SPAP ''RAVDOTA''

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:52 pm
by Georgegala
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Re: SPAP ''RAVDOTA''

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:49 pm
by BarbaPanagos
I have no idea...
what i wanted to say is to wait till somebody can give us some more info: manufacturer, number of cars, types, numbering etc

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Re: SPAP ''RAVDOTA''

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:50 pm
by Georgegala
Ok.The only thing I know is that some of them were converted to administration carriages,post wagons etc.As I saw in some photos,the inside was a typical one; wooden seats, iron body with wood and propably no toilets.

Re: SPAP ''RAVDOTA''

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:57 pm
by Georgegala
http://ek-kinisi.blogspot.gr/2014/03/blog-post_25.html has very nice photos from these carriages and their inside.


Inside Kalamata Depot.If you look at the row of the old carriages,the first car right is the Πολεμιστής, a 1924 Σ.Α. first class carriage, rebuilt for use with the Δα 7108