Steam locomotives SEK Ζα301 - Ζα307 ex-PDS BATIGNOLLES 1907

[Andreas]

Dear Christo,

I think you are right about the tender. The upside down one is that of Zα. I have also to check my pictures. I think though that there were at least two S100 coupled to old tenders and one was that of the 327. Now....about the picture of the De Glehn....Am I wrong...but I see a driving axle in the Tender Could that be the missing middle axle of the loco? Looks like the right size. I believe also that the 3 axle tender comes probably from a series K Loco of the BDZ (0-8-0).

Cheers
Andreas

[christo]

Andreas,
now you are talking my friend. Yes I also think that it is the missing axle, which we now know it went missing after 1973. I will upload more soon, as I go through it.

christo.

[christo]

The drawing of this Baden locomotive represents the Greek Ζα loco accurately. But it runs with the 3 axle tender. Somewhere I had the drawing of the 2 axle one but I have mislaid it

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christo.

[GAZKGK]

--> Ζα 306 was already missing her axle in 1968, and was already missing her axle when A. Luft was there August 1959

--> The tender which was coupled with, is this, probably from a Γβ ..? Maybe used with some Δα ? (but the fact that even in the Luft photo, it is seen just in front of the Ζα 306 (=withdrawn), is a problem).

--> The axle inside the tender does not seem to mach the engine's size, i had seen that in another photo too. You can also see that by comparing the ammount of wheel spokes in the same distance.

--> If the upside down tender is from a Ζα, then it is probably the tender of Ζα 304 which was found in Thessaloniki, in 1973.

[christo]

..6 months later than the 1989 photo...

Photo Balkanmodels: April 1990 loco Ζα306 at the Engine Shed Thessaloniki. It has been shunted further back from the buffer stops of the previous photo.

Photo Balkanmodels: April 1990 loco Ζα306 at the Engine Shed Thessaloniki. Inside the cab.

christo.

[christo]

...and the last two photos from that pilgrimage. Useful shots for the scratch builder

Photo Balkanmodels: April 1990 loco Ζα306 at the Engine Shed Thessaloniki. Inside the left side of the cab. Are these bits on the floor parts of the valve gear?

Photo Balkanmodels: April 1990 loco Ζα306 at the Engine Shed Thessaloniki. Inside the right side of the cab. More bits on the floor which jsimantov will probably know where they are from

christo.

[christo]

...and a black and white one from the past.

Photo Balkanmodels: By the Engine Shed Thessaloniki in the 70s. Is this a buffer visible at the cab end of the locomotive?

christo.

[BarbaPanagos]

it surely looks like a buffer...


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[jsimantov]

Hi Again,

To answer your previous question Christo, the 'junk' on the cab floor can be just anything; remember, the last time this locomotive saw a repair shop was 1943, and God only knows what might have been dumped in it during the last 70 years...

However, at the railway musem in Athens, there used to be a small archive room, where the original blueprints of the SEK steam engines were kept under lock. With a bit of luck, they may still be there...

Now, concerning the last remark, it was commonplace for old french engines to have buffers between the engine and the tender; the cab floor extended all the way to the tender coal slots in order to allow more comfortable working conditions to the crew...

A wish a Happy Summer holiday to everyone!

Iossif

[christo]

old french engines to have buffers between the engine and the tender

Iossif, as far as I know all steam engines had buffers between tender and loco but not the full size ones. They were smaller and often without heads. Later they designed more sophisticated buffering systems.

Photo as in caption from http://4123.co.uk/news-archive/

christo.