Hellas-Express

Posted: **Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:40 am**

Photo Balkanmodels: May 1997 NES Thessaloniki. One Hungarian sleeper and one Couchette car. There are more Hungarians further down the line.

Photo Balkanmodels: May 1997 NES Thessaloniki. The other side of the MAV Couchette car.

christo.

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:17 am**

Photo Balkanmodels: May 1997 NES Thessaloniki. Coupled next to the two sleepers of the previous photo was this Baggage Car. Next to it was a B but I don't seem to be able to locate the photo.

christo.

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:56 pm**

Christo thank you for the photos!

christo wrote:
Photo Balkanmodels: May 1997 NES Thessaloniki. Coupled next to the two sleepers of the previous photo was this Baggage Car. Next to it was a B but I don't seem to be able to locate the photo.
christo.

This car is by more reservation a next model Project from Albertmodell (Basic model Sachsenmodelle)
Price ~120 Euro

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:44 pm**

MAV carriages at Inoi with 3 MLW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIVEDMRy8y8

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:15 am**

All the Hungarian sleepers that came down to Greece were not the same. Some were WLAB and some Bc. Some trains had both types. Also some baggage cars Ds had pictograms of bicycles. Sachsenmodelle did a Bc, B, A and AB, which I bought. I also bought the WR 26.4m from Sachsen (or Tillig) because I liked it since I never saw it in Greece. There were also D baggage, a WL sleeper and a Post wagon but I beleive in 1:100. Roco also produced some 26.4m carriages but again I never saw them travel into Greece.

Photo Balkanmodels: December 1998 NES Thessaloniki.

Photo Balkanmodels: December 1998 NES Thessaloniki. Close up of the end of the above Bc.

christo.

Posted: **Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:07 am**

There came also AcBc couchette cars to Greece. MAV had only 12 of these, but they travelled to destinations as Thessaloniki (with both Hellas-Express via Belgrade and Transbalkan via Sofia), Istanbul, Split and Venezia.
In the video from July 2010 made by Vit Snejdrla you can see Tr. 334 Hellas-Express leaving Thessaloniki. The MAV car is on the 6th position, but the composition as a whole is interesting. In the meantime, nearly all cars of this train are (or were) available as models.
The MAV AcBc was made on base of a Sachsenmodelle car in a small series by a Hungarian manufacturer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b73sTsNu2KU

All the best,
Stefan

Posted: **Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:23 pm**

thanks Stefan, although I had seen this video I didn't notice that AcBc, it's very interesting

btw, I got 3 MAV coaches, WLABm (Tillig 74776), Bcm (I think Sachsenmodelle 14356) and a Wrm (Sachsenmodelle 14492)
I think what I need to model most of the International trains coming down here from early 90's to mid 2K is, a 1st, a1/2nd and a 2nd class coaches
and of course a Ds, but that when it is available

does anyone has any of the ROCO MAV coaches? A comparison with the Tillig would be useful

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