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While we are all on the subject of old wooden vans, here's the Z1 series - I assume that they were made without brake huts as well?

This is one of the most complicated classes of S.E.K. / O.S.E.

There is a lot of interesting info about them but will ''come'' as days pass



Anyway, they are built by Ringhoffer in two different places - factories.

BUREAU CENTRAL D' EXPORTATION RINGHOFFER - KOPRIVNICE /- NESSELSDORF /- STUDENKA / STAUDING /. ATELIERS KOPRIVNICE
BUREAU CENTRAL D' EXPORTATION RINGHOFFER - KOPRIVNICE /- NESSELSDORF /- STUDENKA / STAUDING /. ETABLISSEMENTS RINGHOFFER SMICHOV

Built in 1926 (papers also say that some of them were built in 1925 but i haven't find any one (yet)) , type Gglm-v.



Some photos for now ...

20 73 107 7 601-9 at Ipato



20 73 107 7 708-2 at a field near Amfiklia



20 73 107 7 713-2 at a restaurant near Doirani



20 73 107 7 733-0 at Lachanokipi



20 73 107 7 786-8 at Ipato ( the one at Tim's photo )



20 73 107 7 895-7 at Lianokladi



20 73 107 7 907-0 at Nea Magnisia, Thessaloniki

I will contribute something more.

There were two types of Z1. They were build 1925/26 but were put into active duty in 1926.

1) 860 Zτ 7001-7860. These were I guess with the brakemans house.
2) 140 Z 7861-8000. These were obviously without any type of braking.

Cheers
Andreas

Later they were renumbered to Z 1 20 73 107 7 400 - 925.

Also some of the 7001 - 7860 were ex-Ηπτ for animals ....

Some Ringhoffers of the maintenance cars of Lianokladi ..... all renumbered to series 30 73 100 7 000-330

30 73 100 7 123-5 vehicle of the 2nd bridge maintenance train of the T.M.K. (Τμήμα Μεταλλικών Κατασκευών - Sector of Metallic Constructions)



30 73 100 7 124-3 vehicle of the same train



30 73 100 7 127-8 vehicle of the 1st bridge maintenance train of the T.M.K. (Τμήμα Μεταλλικών Κατασκευών - Sector of Metallic Constructions)



30 73 100 7 205-2



30 73 100 7 281-5 vehicle of the 5th bridge maintenance train of the T.M.K. (Τμήμα Μεταλλικών Κατασκευών - Sector of Metallic Constructions)

Excellent photos! I missed some of those when I was last there in 2005, I was concentrating on the USATC vans. Have you photographed every wagon in Greece or are there some left for the rest of us?

Perhaps we need to start a thread on maintenance vehicles.....

Regards, Tim.

I think we have a topic about maintenance cars ... '' OSE Works and Auxiliary vehicles '' .


Of course i don't have all wagons.... I don't have many around Thessaloniki yet... and some others.

OK, it just seems like you have photos of everything!

I went on an organised tour of Greek railways back in 2000 run by an English operator and around Thessaloniki the special trains we had (Fiat A/A) would not stop around the yards for fear of the people living in the old carriages - we were told they all carried guns. An exaggeration maybe, but our guides seemed quite nervous about even slowing down to look at things, how is it now?

I just joined Amnizia only to find no photos or much of anything on there, seems they've had a crash....

Regards, Tim.

The things at Lachanokipi and Nea Magnisia are ....... hmmm... indescribable unshit .

I went there 4 times. 2008, 2010, 2011 and 2012 , have photographed around 400something vehicles (and around 3000 photos).... that's what i managed . Honestly talking or writing about these places, even photos and (even if i want to describe you) can not make you understand even the 10% of what you feel and what you see there....

Original numbering:

With Brake cabin
Zτ 7001-7320 (320 wagons) Region A (Athens)
Zτ 7321-7860 (540 wagons) Region Β (Thessaloniki)
Without brake cabin
Z 7861-7910 (50 wagons) Region Α
Z 7911-8000 (90 wagons) Region Β

Last OSE numbering 107 7 400-925 (520 wagons registered as surviving of the original 1000)

Ringhoffer also produced 50 animal Carriers Hτ. But these ran on 6.5m wheelbase while the Z ran on 4.5m.



Both Photos Balkanmodels: January 1993 Old Railway station Thessaloniki.

christo