Hellas-Express

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:16 pm**

Good morning to all,

I've seen some H0 model of that OSE P9 Zaces tank wagon (see photo below), but I don't know who's the modeller who manufactures them. Any idea?

OSE P9 Zaces tank wagon in H0

Regards

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:00 pm**

BalkanExpress,

I think this is erail's work but I am not 100% certain. Here is a picture of the original.

Photo Balkanmodels: April 2001 outside the Carriage Shed in Thessaloniki. It is one of 120 Zaces wagons built in Greece by Kioleidis.

christo.

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:18 pm**

Hi BalkanExpress, this is a model Yannis Hazapis, owner of erail has created. http://www.erail.gr/products.asp?action=m&mid=erail
It is based on a Tilig model and as Yannis has stated it's not an accurate model of the real thing. I could say it's just a "look alike" and quite far from the original.

I especially like these tank wagons and I hope we are going to find a proper model that we could use as a base for conversion soon. I have some ideas though,

OSE P9 31 73 797 3076-3 Zaces, Edessa December 2002

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:37 pm**

After that photo of a nice clean one, here's a not so clean one!

Posted: **Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:36 pm**

Series Ρ9 31 73 797 3 001 - 120 built in 2001 by Ν. ΚΙΟΛΕΪΔΗΣ ΑΕΒΕ (N. Kioleidis) , Zaces .

I would upload OSE's presentation's page about them but i can't minimize it to KB limit and if i do it is too small.

Ρ9 31 73 797 3 010-2 at Chimonio station.

I have photos of more ... if some one wants a specific car, let me know .

Posted: **Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:18 am**

Fuel transport wagon type ZACES
This wagon complies with all UIC, RID & ERRI specifications and is suitable for international railway traffic

TECHNICAL DATA
Gauge: 1,435 mm
Overall length including bumpers: 13,040 mm
Tanker length: 11,150 mm
Internal diameter of tank: 2,800 mm
Distance between bogie pins: 8,000 mm
Max width of vehicle: 3,100 mm
Total capacity of tank: 65 m3
Max coefficient of loading: 97%
Max tare weight: 22,5 tons
Payload: 57,5 tons
Bogie: Y25series

From the Kioleides SA page, http://www.kioleides.com/templates/main ... il-product
it is not displayed properly in Firefox

Posted: **Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:32 am**

An unlucky one ...

Ρ9 31 73 797 3 084-7 at Lachanokipi ..... (i don't know where and when it was destroyed) but it happened before 2007 as soon as the last inspection of the vehicle was the builder's inspection at Volos (03/07/2001).