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OSE Z3 Vans 154 3 625-874 Romania 1974

OSE Z3 Vans 154 3 625-874 Romania 1974

Postby BarbaPanagos » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:47 pm

Romanian built, in 1974 by UZINA DE VAGOANE MEVA - TURNU SEVERIN, ROMANIA (according to Jason ;) )

21 73 154 3 625-812 Gbs without Brake Hut, older UIC classification and numbering: 174 6 225- 412 Gbrs (188 units)
21 73 154 3 813-874 Gbs-v with Brake Hut, older UIC classification and numbering: 174 6 413-474 Gbrs-v (62 units)

21 73 154 3 714-5 Gbs at Tithorea
21 73 154 3 714-5 Gbs Τιθορέα.JPG


21 73 154 3 788-9 Gbs at Tithorea
21 73 154 3 788-9 Gbs Τιθορέα.JPG


21 73 154 3 708-7 Gbs at Tithorea
21 73 154 3 708-7 Gbs Τιθορέα.JPG


21 73 154 3 817-6 Gbs-v at Thiva
21 73 154 3 817-6 Gbs-v Thiva 5Apr13 01.JPG


21 73 154 3 817-6 Gbs-v Thiva 5Apr13 02.JPG


21 73 154 3 850-7 Gbs-v at Tithorea
21 73 154 3 850-7 Gbs-v Τιθορέα 01.JPG


21 73 154 3 850-7 Gbs-v Τιθορέα 02.JPG
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Re: Z3 class 154 3 625-874 Romania 1974

Postby GAZKGK » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:35 am

Right Panagiotis ....

What a boring series .... :? :? :mrgreen: Every place has one .

21 73 154 3 629-5 at Lachanokipi

Ζ3 21 73 154 3 629-5 (ΛΑΧΑΝΟΚΗΠΟΙ).JPG


21 73 154 3 637-8 at Mesti

Ζ3 21 73 154 3 637-8 (ΜΕΣΤΗ).JPG


21 73 154 3 657-6 at Velestino

Ζ3 21 73 154 3 657-6 (ΒΕΛΕΣΤΙΝΟ).JPG


21 73 154 3 664-2 at Domokos

Ζ3 21 73 154 3 664-2 (ΔΟΜΟΚΟΣ).JPG


21 73 154 3 696-4 at K.S.A. (Central Station of Alexandroupoli)

Ζ3 21 73 154 3 696-4 (ΚΣΑ).JPG


21 73 154 3 704-6 , burned at Xanthi

Ζ3 21 73 154 3 704-6 (ΞΑΝΘΗ).JPG


21 73 154 3 725-1 at Lianokladi

Ζ3 21 73 154 3 725-1 (ΛΙΑΝΟΚΛΑΔΙ).JPG


21 73 154 3 772-3 at Vena

Ζ3 21 73 154 3 772-3 (ΒΕΝΝΑ).JPG
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Re: Z3 class 154 3 625-874 Romania 1974

Postby GAZKGK » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:46 am

And some with braking hut .

21 73 154 3 814-3 at Ligaria

Ζ3 21 73 154 3 814-3 (ΛΥΓΑΡΙΑ).JPG


21 73 154 3 823-4 at Gefira

Ζ3 21 73 154 3 823-4 (ΓΕΦΥΡΑ).JPG


21 73 154 3 832-5 at Lachanokipi

Ζ3 21 73 154 3 832-5 (ΛΑΧΑΝΟΚΗΠΟΙ).JPG


21 73 154 3 851-5 at Nea Magnisia

Ζ3 21 73 154 3 851-5 (ΜΑΓΝΗΣΙΑ).JPG


21 73 154 3 854-9 at Alexandroupoli's military station

Ζ3 21 73 154 3 854-9 (ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥΠΟΛΗ ΣΤΡ.ΣΤΑΣΗ).JPG


21 73 154 3 857-2 at Arpini

Ζ3 21 73 154 3 857-2 (ΑΡΠΙΝΗ).JPG
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Re: Z3 class 154 3 625-874 Romania 1974

Postby BarbaPanagos » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:29 am

GAZKGK wrote:What a boring series .... :? :? :mrgreen:


I wouldn't expect such a comment from you Jason! :D at least this way you can remember all the places you have been. :mrgreen:

Sometimes though even "boring" cars like these manage to surprise us. As I am actually not experienced at all with the on site spotting and identification and too lazy to learn something by heart, I usually try to do that later from the photos and the help of my notes.
I was a bit confused with the following vans, but with some help, I bet you guess from whom, I had a clue ;)

I had shot 21 73 154 3 362-6 at Tithorea among the numerous cars that lay over there, but then it was obvious even to me that something wrong was going on. It wasn't a plank body like the rest of the 21 73 154 3 000-399 class!
As you have guessed, I sent the photo to Jason who doing that self-check digit calculation, managed to find the right number and to give the almost obvious explanation. Unfortunately I didn't have discover something special, it was just some careless OSE employee who had replaced a 6 by a 3, at least he has done it right, applying it both on the side and door :D

21 73 154 3 662-6 Gbs (marked as 21 73 154 3 362-6), Tithorea 5 April 2013
21 73 154 3 662-6 (marked as 21 73 154 3 362-6) Gbs Τιθορέα 01.JPG


21 73 154 3 662-6 (marked as 21 73 154 3 362-6) Gbs Τιθορέα 02.JPG

*** Theo, have you been there before me? :P



To make the long story short with the second one, I tend to forget that some of the wagons around had an older UIC number...

21 73 154 3 754-1 Gbs bears now its old number and classification 21 73 174 6 354-5 Gbrs on the side. Maybe the more recent paint and marks have faded and chipped revealing the older layers. At the end it is marked right, and at the frame too, although time has revealed some earlier layers there as well.
21 73 154 3 754-1 Gbs (ex 21 73 174 6 354-5 Gbrs) Τιθορέα 01.JPG


21 73 154 3 754-1 Gbs (ex 21 73 174 6 354-5 Gbrs) Τιθορέα 02.JPG


21 73 154 3 754-1 Gbs (ex 21 73 174 6 354-5 Gbrs) Τιθορέα 03.JPG


21 73 154 3 754-1 Gbs (ex 21 73 174 6 354-5 Gbrs) Τιθορέα 09.JPG
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Re: Z3 class 154 3 625-874 Romania 1974

Postby TimCC6558 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:22 am

What a boring series .... :? :? :mrgreen: Every place has one .

I quite like vans... guess that makes me boring, too. :D Anyway, I only seem to have one shot of this series to contribute, but just wait until we get to the Z5s!
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154 3 831-7 at Tithorea, October 2005
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Re: OSE Z3 Vans 154 3 625-874 Romania 1974

Postby christo » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:05 pm

And one 1974 Romanian wagon with a different door. The open car coupled next to it is registered with MAV.

BM CG Z3R74 Jan93.jpg

Photo Balkanmodels: January 1993 at the Old Railway Station in Thessaloniki.

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Re: OSE Z3 Vans 154 3 625-874 Romania 1974

Postby BarbaPanagos » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:56 pm

great shot Christo, could one make a guess about that door? a later replacement with whatever was handy?
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Re: OSE Z3 Vans 154 3 625-874 Romania 1974

Postby GAZKGK » Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:11 pm

The door is probably taken from a Belgian Z6.
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Re: OSE Z3 Vans 154 3 625-874 Romania 1974

Postby christo » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:40 am

Belgian Z6.


Jason, do you mean Yugoslav Z6?

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Re: OSE Z3 Vans 154 3 625-874 Romania 1974

Postby GAZKGK » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:44 pm

Yes, right. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I usually confuse them with the Belgian T6 and T7 :P
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