OSE GOSA 5173 5980 013-027 Bcm & 5173 8580 771-777 BRm & 5173 8580 741-747 BRm carriages

[Andreas]

The first batch was printed but the yellow colour was not exactly a match. He is waiting now for the second trial.

Cheers
Andreas

[erail]

3rd post...
Keep fingers crossed, this time we got the right colour. It's not easy with dry transfers.
And it is quite (very) expensive too! So this second shot is as good as it 'can' get...

[BarbaPanagos]

I have a question,
does anybody knows which is the numbering of the BRm wagons with the tables (771-777 or 741-747?) and which is that of the Bar version?


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[christo]

(771-777 or 741-747?)

771-777 tables

741-747 bar + stools

christo.

[Dimitris]

Does anyone know the wheel-dia. of the GOSAs?

For EU standard-gauge passenger cars, is 950mm (=10,919mm in HO), i.e. WLABm, Bm232, Bcm242, etc., by UIC. However, I don't know for the GOSAs..

Dimitris

[Sky]

Does anyone know the wheel-dia. of the GOSAs?

920mm.

[Dimitris]

Thanx very much Sky,

I appreciate.

I was trying to find these carriages in Rentis, but no luck.. So, if anyone knows, were I may find them, it will be very helpful, as I want to make some measurements on the bufferplates.

- The bufferplates on Standard EU carriages have this sizes by UIC: 600mm (width) x 360mm (depth) /or 660mm (width) x 360mm (depth).
- The bufferlength on standard-gauge EU carriages by UIC, is 630mm = 7,241mm in HO /and or 620mm = 7,126mm in HO where the bufferplates have this sizes by DB-Norm: 530mm (width) x 360mm (depth).
- The left bufferplate area is with flat surface and the right one with curved surface after 1962, and before, it had both bufferplates (right & left) curved.
- There were also 2 editions of the bufferplates: the riveted (genietete), i.e. ΟΣΕ Bm232, ΟΣΕ Bcm242, and cast (geschweißte), i.e. DB WRümh62 TEE - RHEINGOLD, blue-beige / red/beige.

Nevertheless, I definetely need to find this carriage, cause is so unique. I love the GOSA ones (Bcm, Brm, MDDm) a lot!


Dimitris

[BalkanExpress]

Wonderfull all them, Dimitris...

What do you pretend to do with them, any transformation?

BalkanEpxress

[Dimitris]

Hi Adelardo.

Yes, the transformation / upgrade will include:

- UIC sprung-buffers of the standards: 600x360mm, 630mm - buffer-length, if I am correct, according to the measurements, I'll do
- UIC - screw-couplers. This is standard, and exists in all EU rolling-stock
- UIC ari-hoses and electric-cables
- 920mm - dia. - wheels = 10,57mm in HO
- addition of NEW brake-parts to the existing brake-sytem and connection of it with the air-hoses and electric-cables
- NEW UIC-steps for passenger carriages
- ESU lighting-kit

However, I won't do it yet, as I am still in the upgrade of other rolling-stock, which I will present.

Dimitris

[Sky]

The GOŠAs bufferplates are the riveted (genietete) type.
Dimitris, if you are looking for the bufferplate shape, maybe this photo could help you
(The bufferplates of OSE Goša Bcm coach):