SEK & CONSTITUENTS - Ancient carriages - Before WWII

[BarbaPanagos]

theo, have a look here viewtopic.php?f=12&t=31&start=10, Christo has already posted this photo

Lilliput L328601 is a model that could be used, there is a Rocco one as well


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[christo]

theo,

I sell those Liliput carriages in set boxes of three. All brand new.Supplied with SEK plates or not. Pm for price and photos if you wish.

christo.

[christo]

Another photo off the internet of Brp599 before final disintegration.

christo.

[christo]

Photo French Ministry of Culture showing King Alexander of Greece arriving in Salonica in February 1917. Two carriages are recognisable, the bogied Πφκ1 and the 4 wheeler Πκ 2.

Diagrams of the above two Royal carriages registered originally to PDS then SEK.

christo.

[christo]

Photo French Ministry of Culture showing 2 carriages converted around WWI to Ambulance cars constructed by Ringhoffer. The order to Ringhoffer was a joint one between StEG, MAV, SZD, BDZ and CO. So the question is what happened to these two. SEK inherited 4 CO carriages very similar to them but not the same. Where is Tim, Andreas, Pierre, when you need them?

Drawing of the Ringhoffer carriage.

Drawing of the CO carriages inherited by SEK.


christo.

[BarbaPanagos]

let's see who has something to tel us about this one

I have found it here http://ek-kinisi.blogspot.gr/2013_10_01_archive.html
incorrectly placed within an article about 1940 Greek-Italian war
obviously shot during, or after, the 1912-1913 Balkan Wars. note the CO logo on the wagon at the left

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[Andreas]

Hi Christo,

considering these Coaches from the CO I have a theory about that. I was studying some photos the other day and I saw a famous picture (the one with one La and a passenger train at papadia). If you take a look at the first coach you will see the same underframe....I would guess that these were modified/rebuilt after WWII. That is very bad because these coaches are very elegant.

I will be back to add the picture...I am currently sitting in ICE77 towards Zurich.

Cheers
Andreas

[BarbaPanagos]

Veroia 1912, Prince Konstantinos, General Daglis and other HQ stuff at the Rail Station.

could you recognize any of these coaches?

from the fb page https://www.facebook.com/theodoros.metallinos

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[christo]

The carriages in that line should have been SM which was an independent part of the CO. The SM in Greek reads ΘΜ . Is there something like that on the edge of the roof of the middle carriage directly above the door? But I will think further on this photo which I see for the first time.

christo.

[GAZKGK]

Yes, for me it surely says "ΘΜ" there ... but it looks like it has been edited - added on the photo. The photo looks far more blurry there..