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Re: OSE ''KIOLEIDIKA'' Greece 2004

Postby JohnP » Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:46 am

Well this is interesting :-) The marklin.gr shop is offering these coaches for sale:

http://www.marklin.gr/index.php?route=p ... ct_id=8568 (there appear to be 5 variations)

The construction is not typical and perhaps not for everyone, but I think that this is a creative way to make these unique coaches available. I'm very happy to see this. I'm definitely going to give a couple a try. Mine wont be running behind a Vectron however - the Hellas Sprinter will do just fine. ;)

More detail on the construction method here. Google translate does a pretty accurate job if you don't read Greek.

http://us9.campaign-archive.com/?u=b4aa ... 683b0a7001
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Re: OSE ''KIOLEIDIKA'' Greece 2004

Postby JohnP » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:19 pm

For those of you who don't know, the paper Kioleidika I mentioned one post above are designed by Nondas Moyzes who has a very inspiring Facebook group (Paper Model Factory) with all sorts of interesting ideas.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/297342423939177/

Here is a video of mine in action (on my floor). The first two coaches are my Roco "stand-ins" and the last three are Mr. Moyzes' designs that I purchased from Marklin.gr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2_l9CLbAKo&t=5s
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Re: OSE ''KIOLEIDIKA'' Greece 2004

Postby Mon » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:41 pm

BarbaPanagos wrote:...
Bmpz - 2nd class with central corridor
Bmz - 2nd class with compartments ...

I wonder which one was a standard part of Hellas to Belgrade between 2009-2015?
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Re: OSE ''KIOLEIDIKA'' Greece 2004

Postby BarbaPanagos » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:46 am

I think it was a Bmz ;)

here is the 335 composition according to Jason
http://hellas-express.eu/viewtopic.php? ... 9&start=10
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Re: OSE ''KIOLEIDIKA'' Greece 2004

Postby Mon » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:45 pm

Thanks, Barba Panagos (and Jason) for the information. :)
Which RAL color is the best to use for the models of these carriages?
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Re: OSE ''KIOLEIDIKA'' Greece 2004

Postby BarbaPanagos » Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:05 pm

sorry Mon, I have missed quite some posts lately! :(

I have no idea about Ral of those colors. You better ask some of the professionals that have already converted some look alike models
erail and Model Trains, maybe
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Re: OSE ''KIOLEIDIKA'' Greece 2004

Postby JohnP » Thu Jun 13, 2024 4:23 pm

Hello Mon,

The Facebook group Paper Model Factory (run by Greek modeller Nondas Moyzes) has files for paper models of each version of the "Kioleidika'

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2973424 ... iles/files

The colours seem very accurate to me. I wonder if you looked at a PDF on the file list (for example NK-SGP_ADmz_PaperModel_Mk2.pdf) if it would be possible to reverse engineer the RAL for each colour.

Also I think the professional that BarbaPanagos was referring to was ModellingCentre who have examples of their work on their website: https://www.modellingcentre.gr/en/portf ... ika-wagons

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Re: OSE ''KIOLEIDIKA'' Greece 2004

Postby Mon » Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:59 pm

Many thanks for the replies Barba Panagos and JohnP, those links are worth a closer look.
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